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Of all the herbs that I've learnt about during my time studying Herbalism with the S.N.H.S, lobelia (Lobelia inflata) is the one that caught my attention more than any other. This herb is something of an enigma, seeming to range from 'the ultimate wonder herb' in the views of some, to a 'dangerous poison' in the views of others. This would appear to be reflected in its availability in various countries across the globe, being restricted to usage by qualified herbalists in some, yet freely available to the general public in others. |
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Such conflicting views and thoughts about one herb really got me thinking. Are those in favour of the herb playing with fire and ultimately putting their patients at risk? Or is it the case that those who shun away from its use simply don't have the knowledge or understanding to use it to its full potential? |
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Of course, its not just lobelia that has this controversy
about it, there are many other herbs that have been the subject of debate,
being good for you one minute, and bad for you the next. In all
truthfulness, this seems to happen with just about anything consumed by
the general public in today's society (as salt users, egg eaters and red
wine drinkers can all testify!) It just seems to me that lobelia hangs
very much in the balance, between being the best herb on the planet, to
being one of the most harmful. I have to say that I already have my own
thoughts and views on lobelia as a healing herb, and I have to say that so
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The first time I ever heard of lobelia was as a child, watching my Dad make up his hanging baskets, using these beautiful little blue flowers. Lobelia (Lobelia inflata) is an erect, flowering annual or biennial plant, growing between 1 and 2 feet in height, with an angled and branched stem. It has yellowish to light-green leaves, which are alternate, ovate-lanceolate in shape, and are hairy. It bears pale violet to blue flowers, and has oval, two-celled fruit capsules, which contain a number of small, brown seeds. The plant has a slight, somewhat irritating smell, and its taste is strongly acrid, resembling tobacco. It has many common names, including Pukeweed, Indian tobacco, emetic weed, vomitwort, gagroot and asthma weed to name but a few, (the reason behind most of these less than attractive common names will be discussed further on, although it really wouldn't take a genius to figure it out!). |
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Lobelia inflata is native to the Eastern United States, Canada and Russia's Kamchatka Peninsula, it can be found growing on wasteland, dry grassland, near ditches and along the edge of forests. There are several other varieties, including a couple that are British strains, (Lobelia dortmanna and Lobelia urens) popular in English gardens because of their beautiful purple, blue and pink colours. The generic name Lobelia is after the Flemish botanist Matthias de L'obel (1538-1616), whilst inflata is in reference to the way the seed capsule inflates during ripening. The leaves and the seeds are both used medicinally, the seeds being the stronger of the two. |
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Lobelia has a long, if not chequered history of medicinal
usage. It has been widely used by Native Americans, especially those
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And so it was that by the time early European settlers appeared on the shores of North America, lobelia already had its place as a medicinal marvel. Early American doctors considered lobelia to be one of the most important medicinal plants that they had, so much so, that it was used very much as their primary medicine. They used it to treat coughs and spasms in the lungs from a variation of causes, as well as spasms elsewhere in the body, such as in the intestines. Its powerful antispasmodic properties had not gone unnoticed, even way back then. It was considered to be a powerful pain reliever and was also used in high amounts to induce vomiting in people who had ingested poison (its highly emetic nature has led to its many descriptive common names!). Cutler, who in 1813 spent time examining its anti-asthmatic properties, brought lobelia into general usage. |
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It was introduced into British medicine in 1829. For many people, Samuel Thomson (1769-1843) is the one name that they immediately associate with lobelia. He is the man who is commonly credited with its discovery, although of course, the Native American Indians had been using it medicinally for years prior to his 'discovery'. Thomson was born in New Hampshire, U.S.A. on February 9th. 1769. The information I have found on Thomson has been taken from an autobiographical account of his life, which has been researched and published by John Uri Lloyd. It was found on the Internet website Medhist, (the guide to history of medicine resources on the Internet). In this article, Thomson describes how his family were poor, and how his father struggled to make ends meet farming a small piece of land. |
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Doctors, as we know them, were unheard of when Thomson was
a boy, and the local wisewoman, Widow Benton, treated the Thomson family
in times of sickness. She did this using a selection of herbs and roots
that she found growing in the surrounding countryside. The young Samuel
had long had an interest in the plants growing round his home, something
that came of him spending lots of time in the field helping his father
with livestock and farming. It wasn't long before he was going along with
Widow Benton when she |
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Out of curiosity, he decided to chew some of the pods that
were present on this strange plant. The result was that he was violently
sick. The strong, very quick emetic action of this plant stuck in his
mind, and he even admits to encouraging the local boys to chew the
pods "merely by way of sport", knowing that they would vomit.
And so, in this way, lobelia was 'discovered'. He was to make the
discovery of its medicinal potential, after witnessing a man 'overdose' on
the herb and vomit violently, after which he claimed to feel better than
he had in a long time. As a man, Thomson went on to develop a system of
healing that |
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This is never more apparent than in a few lines of a poem that Thomson wrote: |
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He appeared to have a certain amount of success with his system, and even went on to patent it and call it " Thomson's improved system of Botanic practice of Medicine". |
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Throughout his autobiography, however, it is clear that
Thomson had a deep hatred for the 'Doctors' who had by now made an
appearance, and were prevalent in his adult years. Thomson was very much
against the way the Doctors of the time approached medicine. The use of
mercury, violent laxatives, and the process of bleeding patients were all
fairly barbaric as far as Thomson was concerned. From reading his
autobiography, it is plainly evident that Thomson was under the impression
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They quickly condemned lobelia as being a 'deadly poison'
and in 1809 Thomson was charged with the murder of Ezra Lovett, who had
been a patient of his who had died in his care. There were some |
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Another famous trial which surfaced in Thomson's heyday,
was that of Dr. R. K. Frost, who was |
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One has to wonder why some people continue to see lobelia as being a deadly poison. Is it because the man credited with its discovery, amongst others, was tried for murder, accused of poisoning his patients with it? Had he been founds guilty, then yes I would see this as probably being the main reason. But he was found not guilty and acquitted. Whatever had killed these people, it probably wasn't, in all fairness all down to Thomson's lobelia. Thomson stood firm with his theory that lobelia was a safe medicine, he even used it himself when he was sick on his deathbed. Thomson used the herb many times without implications, and indeed with a great degree of success. At the trial of Dr Frost, one particular witness was asked, "How much lobelia would it take to kill a man?" to which the witness replied, " I have said that I have given half a pound, and that it did not kill". |
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So why, in today's modern society, are we still so divided
over the safety of this herb? I was amazed to find that two sources of my
research had completely differing views as to the safety of this herb. On |
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Lobelia contains something in the region of fourteen alkaloid
constituents, as well as lobelic acid, resins, lipids, an essential oil
and inflatin. The most notable of lobelia's alkaloids is lobeline (chemical
formula C22H27NO2) which is a yellow oil, having a tobacco-like taste and
smell, and being insoluble in water. It is a pyridine-derived alkaloid,
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Proctor first extracted lobeline from lobelia in 1838.
Lobeline
exists in combination with lobelic acid, which was discovered by Pereira,
and the pair work together, being exceedingly active emetics. Though
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Lobeline, being the main active principle, is responsible for
the majority of the effects on the human body that lobelia has. Lobelia is
an exceedingly quick-working remedy, being extremely diffusive and
affecting |
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It has been shown that lobeline stimulates the respiratory centre within the brain's stem, producing stronger and deeper breathing, which goes some way to help explain why lobelia is useful for respiratory complaints. It also has a more direct effect on the lungs, relaxing the muscles of the smaller bronchial tubes, and so opening the airways, stimulating breathing and promoting the coughing up of phlegm. It is this action that makes it invaluable in the treatment of many respiratory disorders such as croup, bronchitis, asthma, whooping cough and pleurisy. Not only will it have this relaxing effect on the bronchioles in the lungs, its diffusive nature means that it will quickly relax any contracted parts of the respiratory system, including the oesophagus, glottis and larynx, allowing oxygenated blood to flow freely. |
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It also helps to strengthen the walls of the blood vessels,
which in turn then help to propel the blood along, helping with the flow
of
oxygen throughout the body. Its reputation as a very effective relaxant,
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The oil is of value in the treatment of tetanus. Lobelia has been referred to as the 'smart' or 'thinking' herb, due to its ability to almost make conscious decisions, and be selective about how to respond to a certain ailment or condition. For example, in pregnancy, if the foetus is not thriving or in deformed, or even dead, then lobelia will abort that foetus. If however, the foetus is strong and healthy but the mother is weak and ailing, it will cause the mother to improve and strengthen until her baby is born. |
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Having explored the therapeutic effects of lobelia and its chemical constituents, it seems logical to me that the next step should be to look at therapeutic dosage of the herb. The effects listed above are all, I think its fair to say, positive effects, aimed at helping the patients to regain their health, and not at harming them. In researching this subject, one phrase that kept appearing, in conjunction with the therapeutic properties of the herb was 'low dosage'. So, in order to make the best use of lobelia as a healing herb, what constitutes a low - and therefore apparently safe - dose? |
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On one Internet site (Henriette's Herbal Homepage), I found
a
list of classic herbal works, and one of these was King's American
Dispensatory. On this page there was a lot of information about lobelia,
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'If a small amount of lobelia is chewed, it will produce a marked increase in the production of saliva, due to the stimulation of the salivary and buccal glands. An increase in the amount of mucous produced is also evident. This is followed by diminished activity in the epigastric area (the abdominal area over the stomach). At this point, a feeling of nausea becomes apparent (if the amount of lobelia chewed is large enough, emesis will occur). Emetic action can be depressive, and it is usually accompanied by profuse perspiration. A languid pulse also usually accompanies this stage and there may be intense relaxation of the muscular system. |
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The depressive
action of the herb is usually short lived, and once this lifts, it is immediately followed by a sensation of extreme satisfaction and repose - by now the muscles are powerfully relaxed. If a small dose is taken, then the circulation is 'strengthened' but if a large dose is taken, the circulation is said to be 'enfeebled'. Bronchial secretions are also increased. If lobelia doesn't prove to be emetic, it usually purges instead.' This gives a good insight into the chain of events that occur after taking lobelia, but no clear figures are given that might help us conceive what a low or high dose might be. In the search for this information, it became quite clear that the views of what constitutes a 'safe' dose vary quite dramatically. The following are some examples of this, along with the sources from which they came: |
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Source 1: Botanical.com - A modern Herbal. Powdered bark - 5-60 grains Fluid extract - 10 - 20 drops Acid tincture - 1-4 drachms Syrup - 1-4 drachms Solid extract - 2-4 grains |
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Source 2: Vitacost.com Acetract tincture - 1 ml 3 times daily (the maximum dosage required should be that which causes no or minimal nausea). |
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Source 3: Herbs2000.com Infusion - ¼ - ½ teaspoon in a cup of water Tincture - ½ - 1ml 3 times daily. |
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Source 4: Herbal transitions.com Infusion - 1 teaspoon per cup. |
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Source 5: Nutritional Herbology by Mark Pedersen. Small dose - 0.2-0.6 gram dried powdered herb The effects of a small dose are activating and energising (expectorant, antispasmodic). Moderate dose -0.4-1.5 gram dried powdered herb. The effects are powerful and relaxant. Large dose - 2.5-4.0 gram dried powdered herb. The effects are emetic and relaxant. |
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Source 6: The A-Z of Modern Herbalism by Simon Y. Mills Recommended dose - 20-50mg of dried herb equivalent Maximum permitted dose - 200mg of dried herb equivalent 3 times Daily. |
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NOTE: 1 drachm = 1/8 of a fluid ounce 1 grain = 0.0648 gram |
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It is important to take a minute or two to compare some of these dosages. In my own opinion, Sources 1 to 4 are all very much the same, in some cases (as with Source 1), giving no indication of frequency of the dosage mentioned. Sources 5 and 6 proved particularly interesting to me on further examination, and it is for this reason that I have chosen to look at them in more depth, rather than the other 4. When comparing the dosages stated in source 5 and source 6, there seems to be a noticeable difference in dosage levels. |
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This small dosage of Lobelia (0.2-0.6 grams) is something in the region of ten times larger than the recommended dosage (0.02-0.05 grams) in source 6. I would consider a 'recommended' dosage to be the most favourable or advisable amount of that herb to administer to a patient at any one time, however this 'recommended' dosage is ten times smaller than the small dosage in source 5. |
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For an herb known to be as potent and fast acting as Lobelia, I found it
quite astounding that there could be such a difference between a
recommended
dose from one source and a small dose from another source. This is
especially so when the recommended dosage was ten times smaller than the
small dosage. I personally would have expected a small dose and a
recommended dose to have been pretty much the same, with perhaps the small
dosage being a little smaller than the recommended one. Knowing the very |
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The next area of comparison I wanted to look at was between the moderate dosage of Source 5 (0.4-1.5 grams ) and the Maximum permitted dosage of Source 6 (0.6 grams (daily total)). |
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Unfortunately, the information given for this source did not clarify whether these figures in Source 5 comprise the daily total (i.e. no more than 1.5 grams to be given in 1 day) or if 1.5 grams could be given 3 times daily (making a daily total of 4.5 grams). This maximum permitted dosage in Source 6 is given in individual doses of 0.2 grams of Lobelia given 3 times daily. This individual dosage is half the size of the lower end of the moderate dose. |
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In the above example, the lack of information regarding the regularity of dosages in Source 5 makes interpreting the data a bit more difficult. It can be seen, however, that the maximum permitted daily dosage in Source 6 is about comparable to the smaller end of the moderate dosage in Source 5. Indeed, the top end of the moderate dosage of Source 5 is over six times larger than the maximum permitted in Source 6 (if both are taken as individual doses). |
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If considering the lower ends of both ranges, the lower dosage of Source 5 is still twice the amount of the individual dosage of Source 6. This again I find quite astounding, as to my mind 'moderate' means 'not going to extremes, medium'. This to me would imply a dose that was of fairly average proportions, however quite clearly the moderate dosage of Source 5 would be considered 'extreme' in Source 6. Of course, I am assuming that the dosages given in Source 5 are the individual doses, but even if taking the doses in Source 5 to be the maximum daily totals, at the higher end it is still over twice the amount. |
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When I went on to examine these sources further. Another
feature came to my attention, which I think can shed a whole lot of light
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In
America however, there are no such regulations restricting the use of
lobelia, and so it is readily sold to the general public and qualified
therapists alike. This has been obvious to me when scouring the Internet
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It seems to me that there are a number of factors that need to
be considered when trying to establish what constitutes a safe dose of
lobelia. Opinions are clearly influenced by where in the world you live
but what is or is not safe depends
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Where there are no legal limitations, one has to rely
on one's own knowledge and experience. In my opinion, there is no set 'safe' dosage for
this herb. I feel it must truly rest with the expansive knowledge and,
probably more importantly, to the individual's experience of its use, to
decide how much is safe to use. A safe dose is a dose that produces the
therapeutic effects desired whilst producing the least amount of unwanted
ones (something echoed in Source 2). I realise that this may seem like a
cop-out, and that I haven't come up with a magic number that represents a
safe level, but to my mind, if experienced practitioners are able to
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Having looked at what constitutes a safe dosage of lobelia, I think it is pertinent to consider what constitutes an overdose. Of course, when considering the dosage of any medicinal herb, the health and condition, age, size, robustness etc. of the patient must be taken into consideration. What is a safe dose for one individual could be lethal to another. |
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Contra-indications also have to be taken into account, and along with
this,
any drug interactions that there could be, must be considered. Some of the
contra-indications I have found for lobelia are nervous prostration,
shock,
paralysis, pneumonia or fluid around the lungs, heart disease and high
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It is suggested that lobelia should not be used alongside nicotine based products (such as the readily available nicotine patches, marketed to help smokers give up smoking). One assumes that this is because using the two agents together would lead to something like a 'nicotine overdose'. I have also seen it said that lobelia should not be used on children under the age of six years, unless absolutely necessary, and even then with extreme caution. It is also stated that the herb should not be used for more than one month consecutively. So, now I have looked at the contra-indications of this herb, I feel I should now look at what the symptoms might be should an overdose be given in error. |
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From the research I have done, it would appear that an overdose of lobelia would constitute some of the following; weakness, stupor, tremors, paralysis, rapid breathing and pulse, hypothermia, pinpoint pupils, sweating, prostration, unconsciousness, convulsions, coma and eventually death, usually as a result of respiratory paralysis. A fairly standard set of symptoms that one might expect had they been given or taken an overdose of a 'poison' medicine. Some might readily argue that taking enough of the herb to induce vomiting would be consistent with an overdose. This might be considered true, however vomiting used to be a common herbal practice in the treatment of many ailments where it was felt beneficial to allow the patient to rid themselves of harmful toxins by the act of vomiting. This was also done to clear the system of stubborn mucous in cases of asthma and other respiratory problems. There is also the idea that the vomiting caused by lobelia is, in itself, an overdose limiting function, wherein small amounts of the herb are ejected from the body before an overdose level can be ingested. |
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However, when considering the very nature of the herb, it
certainly crossed my mind that perhaps giving an overdose of lobelia would
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To conclude, it would seem to me that lobelia is as much a
poison as any other herbal, or indeed alkaloid drug can be. There are many
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Its all a matter of knowing how lobelia works, recognising that it is extremely powerful and quick working, and knowing the right dose for the effect you are hoping to achieve. It is interesting to note that one of the first things it is recommended to do in the case of an aspirin overdose is to induce vomiting. Lobelia will do this for you naturally, and yet this action is not usually recognised to be the herbs anti - overdose mechanism, instead it is all to often seen as one of its worst, debilitating side effects. |
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One of the areas where I've seen the most conflict is between the world of herbal medicine and that of so called 'orthodox' medicine. It is clear that the persecution of successful herbal remedies was certainly prevalent in Thomson's time, and for the most part it is still around today. Orthodox doctors are still of the belief that herbal medicines are of no use as the amounts of the useful compounds contained in the plants are not standardised. They tend be under the impression that any people that claim to be cured by herbal remedies are probably just experiencing a placebo effect, that its all in their minds. |
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This is, of course, despite the fact that many of the modern drugs that these doctors are probably in the habit of giving out on a daily basis will be derived from plants. To them, herbs such a lobelia are exactly the justification they need to say that there is no room in this modern world for such practices as herbal medicine, where dangerous poisons exist to be used on the unsuspecting patient. |
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Although in countries like the Britain where the use of plants like lobelia is restricted, modern day herbalist are still aware of the positive uses of the herb, although some do tend to play these down. They are bound by rules and regulations, which prevent them from perhaps using it as gleefully as their American counterparts. Perhaps because of this, some British herbalists tend towards thinking of it as more of a poison than as a help - although they always make reference to its beneficial use in asthma and its wonderful relaxant abilities. |
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Restriction has meant that
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Surely if it was such a poisonous plant, the Native American
people would not have used it so readily for so many years? If high
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However, they would have had no concept of what a milligram was, or a 'maximum permitted dosage'. They would have seen that giving this herb to those with asthma or similar complaints showed considerable improvement and that if too much was taken, that person would quickly complain of nausea and then vomit the herb back up. In their eyes it would have been a wonder herb, able to cure in the right quantity, but also containing a foolproof method of stopping the administration of overdoses. I feel that sometimes, we need to stop and think, and reflect upon what we can learn from those who went before us, as they didn't have modern technology to help them heal themselves, and only those remedies that were of significant benefit will have stood the test of time. |
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